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konqueror
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Post Posted: Saturday Mar 07, 2015 12:08 pm Reply with quote
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your best bet is to spotter Fate/Nil get-go

And this is the moment when I disregard this review. Unlimited Blade Works does a pretty good job explaining itself in the first three-two episodes.

It looks easier than watching some other series with 24/25 episodes.

Comparison UBW everytime to Zero is just a big no. If you don't like UBW for what it is, don't watch information technology, this isn't an Urobuchi show and it will never be ane. The same with every other TM show.

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xFlintx
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:23 pm Reply with quote
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your best bet is to scout Fate/Zero commencement

not this shit again

Thats like saying watching Star Wars episode 1 is a expert identify to starting time watching Star Wars. Do you really think knowing spoiler[Darth Vader is Luke'due south father is gonna make you savor it more?]

F/SN spoils literally only one thing in F/Z and that'due south the winner which is pretty [expletive] obvious if y'all watched the first episode. F/Z spoils numerous twists inside F/SN in the first episode lonely, peculiarly in Heaven's experience. F/SN isn't ment to build on what you know from F/Z, F/Z is ment to build on what you know in F/SN. That's exactly why it's called a prequel.

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Mathias2001
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Post Posted: Sabbatum Mar 07, 2015 12:31 pm Reply with quote
Don't really agree with this review, well I concord at some points just you lot shoudn't compare Zero(My fav anime) with this for many reasons.

Nothing should be watched after this especially with all the plot twist that would be ruined considering of Zilch.

I don't concord with the diologue. While information technology wasn't the best thing ever, it wasn't something mock worthy.I agree in that location was some faults to it but it wasn't equally bad as you lot say it was.

I don't come across the trouble people take with CG, never bothered me and I don't call up it volition ever bother me(Actually information technology did in one case in the Toaru movie when the girl sang

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Barbobot

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:46 pm Reply with quote
konqueror wrote:
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your best bet is to watch Fate/Zero first

And this is the moment when I disregard this review. Unlimited Blade Works does a pretty good chore explaining itself in the first three-2 episodes.

Merely Nick conspicuously mentions that you are perfectly fine jumping in at UBW equally information technology does a proficient job of telling you everything y'all need to know for the story. He only thinks information technology might exist a flake better to start with Fate/Zip, which I'd concord with. I enjoyed some of the more subtle character moments in UBW that you lot may not fifty-fifty have noticed if you had never seen Fate/Zippo.

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Seif

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:fifty pm Reply with quote
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F/SN spoils literally just one thing in F/Z and that's the winner which is pretty [expletive] obvious if you watched the first episode. F/Z spoils numerous twists within F/SN in the beginning episode alone, especially in Heaven's feel. F/SN isn't ment to build on what you know from F/Z, F/Z is ment to build on what you know in F/SN. That's exactly why information technology'southward called a prequel.

Yous're 100% correct concerning the novel.

Merely Ufotable'southward UBW is clearly directed with the noesis of F/Z in the viewers listen. This is utterly apparent.

Fate/Goose egg may not be required to follow the narrative, but the prove 100% makes no basic almost the fact that it knows you know.

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Nocorras
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:54 pm Reply with quote
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F/SN spoils literally but one affair in F/Z and that'south the winner which is pretty [expletive] obvious if y'all watched the first episode. F/Z spoils numerous twists within F/SN in the first episode alone, especially in Heaven's experience. F/SN isn't ment to build on what you know from F/Z, F/Z is ment to build on what you know in F/SN. That's exactly why it's called a prequel.

Yous're 100% right concerning the novel.

But Ufotable'southward UBW is clearly directed with the knowledge of F/Z in the viewers heed. This is utterly apparent.

Information technology's not required watching only the testify 100% makes no bones about the fact that it knows you know.

As a VN reader I want to know what knowledge you recollect F/Z gives and how it helps explicate UBW. Because the way I await at it there is literally zippo Zero gives you that helps drive the narrative of UBW. The Kiritsugu stuff in the evidence was already in the VN so don't bring that up.

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unitmikey

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:55 pm Reply with quote
The Fate dialogue definitely does get dry at times, but wow, those fight scenes are some of almost well-blithe activeness sequences I've always seen for a television show. Luckily, this series is way ameliorate than the UBW picture show and I'm withal hoping that the ending will be directed amend because the moving picture finale was lamely executed.

And guys, he said that it's fine to start watching UBW before Nothing if you desire too. It'southward pretty much implied that if there is a prequel information technology's going to spoil some stuff that isn't already known in the post-obit series.

Anyways, when the upcoming Sky's Feel movie comes out I hope it's more in line with this Tv set prove than than the movie or the original series (which was pretty practiced though). Anticipating swell things in the upcoming episodes, but I don't know if at that place will be any style to make the catastrophe equally skilful equally in the offset television adaptation, considering it just finished out so perfectly imo.

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Seif

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Post Posted: Saturday Mar 07, 2015 12:58 pm Reply with quote
Nocorras wrote:
Seif wrote:
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F/SN spoils literally only one thing in F/Z and that'south the winner which is pretty [expletive] obvious if y'all watched the first episode. F/Z spoils numerous twists within F/SN in the first episode lonely, especially in Heaven's experience. F/SN isn't ment to build on what you know from F/Z, F/Z is ment to build on what you know in F/SN. That'southward exactly why it'south chosen a prequel.

You're 100% right concerning the novel.

But Ufotable's UBW is clearly directed with the knowledge of F/Z in the viewers listen. This is utterly apparent.

It's not required watching but the show 100% makes no bones about the fact that it knows you lot know.

Equally a VN reader I desire to know what knowledge y'all retrieve F/Z gives and how it helps explain UBW. Because the manner I look at it at that place is literally aught Zero gives you that helps drive the narrative of UBW. The Kiritsugu stuff in the show was already in the VN so don't bring that up.

Zilch in UBW requires you to know the plot of F/Z, but the show's direction is such that it was made with people who take seen F/Z in heed. This is clear from tone, music cues, and characters. Tell me you tin see this.

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Post Posted: Saturday Mar 07, 2015 12:58 pm Reply with quote
Barbobot wrote:
Merely Nick clearly mentions that you are perfectly fine jumping in at UBW equally it does a proficient chore of telling you lot everything you need to know for the story. He just thinks it might be a bit better to get-go with Fate/Naught, which I'd concur with. I enjoyed some of the more subtle character moments in UBW that yous may non even accept noticed if you had never seen Fate/Zero.

Subtle character moments? Similar Illya in the bathroom talking about Kiritsugu? Even in the Fate route Illya talks about revenge on Kiritsugu. It's not a link to Zero, information technology's the usual foreshadowing to plot points that Nasu added in every route, this time in the anime accommodation.

Information technology'due south non amend to start with Zero equally it spoils a lot of stuff of stay night. Let'due south all watch episodes 1, ii and iii of Star Wars and later episodes 4, 5 and half dozen.

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Nocorras
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:59 pm Reply with quote
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Nothing in UBW requires you to know the plot of F/Z, but the show's direction is such that it's follows F/Z. This is clear from tone, music cues, and characters.

And so basically, you're just making stuff up.

[Edit]: removed unnecessary quotes. Please familiarise yourself with the quoting quidelines. Errinundra.

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Seif

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Post Posted: Sabbatum Mar 07, 2015 ane:15 pm Reply with quote
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So basically, you're just making stuff upwards.

How can you lot watch Kirei explain to Shirou the rules of the Grail War and not see the obvious directorial choices that acknowledge the scene'south irony to the viewer?

The way that Kirei laughs when he hears Emiya's name. The way he grips his command seal laden arm when he talks about Kiritsugu'due south choice. The style the scene lathers on that every word out of this homo's oral cavity is a lie intended to provoke Shirou. All of these are playing off the viewers noesis of Fate/Zero.

I've played the VN. The tone is absolutely not the same.

It's all over the place. Rin's clumsiness effectually Sakura, Saber'south reaction to both Shirou'due south proper name and Illya'south advent. Gilgamesh'southward tangible chemistry with Kirei in their brief scenes together is then thick that yous can literally experience the show smirking at us with the "remember these two dudes wrecking shit?"

This isn't even counting the numerous callbacks to character blitheness, scenery and music.

No, the show doesn't set these points up to exist incomprehensible to complete neophytes. But information technology is certainly playing to those of u.s.a. who do know what's going on. It's serving ii masters, and I have say that it'southward doing it exceedingly well.

Not only is it okay that they're doing this; it's but natural to expect them too. Fate/Null was a massive success and, for many people, their first (and only) exposure to the franchise. Why wouldn't they cater to that audition?

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Post Posted: Saturday Mar 07, 2015 1:36 pm Reply with quote
I agree that if someone wants to get the "full experience" with all the niggling nuances within Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works it is recommended for them to watch Fate/Zero beforehand.

If someone is satisfied with just a testify with a not plot and impressive scenes (both action and Slice-of-Life), then watching Fate/Zero shouldn't be a prerequisite, for the show fleshes out its settings, characters and premise pretty well over the initial 2 episodes (+ the 1-hour long special Episode #0).

Will watching Fate/Zero before watching Fate/stay nighttime: Unlimited Blade Works ruin some of the latter's plot elements? Yes, being a sequel to the former, it is pretty much a given that some of UBW's attempts at presenting the plot as mysterious will be nullified. Simply (and that's the master question,) volition it ruin the enjoyment of watching UBW? No. UBW manages to present its characters and settings in an interesting light, somewhat removed from the way Fate/Zero presented its own elements, and somewhat "in the spirit" of F/Z's.

As someone who watched Fate/stay night, Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (the picture), Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) (in that order) I tin can assure you that, in the larger scheme of things and in a larger point-of-view, I don't regret the order I've watched the F/sn entries. Watching UBW (movie) has given a general idea of UBW (TV)'s plot and direction (I haven't played whatsoever of the VNs or read whatever of the LNs/mangas), but I think that it ufotable has managed to put together an impressive show (I know, I'one thousand repeating myself, but that'south what I call up).

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Nocorras
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:39 pm Reply with quote
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So basically, you lot're just making stuff up.

How can yous lookout man Kirei explain to Shirou the rules of the Grail War and non see the obvious directorial choices that admit the scene's irony to the viewer?

The manner that Kirei laughs when he hears Emiya's name. The manner he grips his control seal laden arm when he talks virtually Kiritsugu's choice. The fashion the scene lathers on that every word out of this human'due south oral fissure is a lie intended to provoke Shirou. All of these are playing off the viewers noesis of Fate/Nothing.

I've played the VN. The tone is absolutely non the same.

It's all over the identify. Rin'due south awkwardness around Sakura, Saber'due south reaction to both Shirou's name and Illya'due south advent. Gilgamesh's tangible chemistry with Kirei in their cursory scenes together is so thick that yous can literally experience the show smirking at u.s.a. with the "retrieve these two dudes wrecking shit?"

This isn't even counting the numerous callbacks to character blitheness, scenery and music.

No, the show doesn't gear up these points upwards to be incomprehensible to complete neophytes. But it is certainly playing to those of us who do know what's going on. It's serving two masters, and I have say that it's doing it exceedingly well.

Not but is it okay that they're doing this; it's only natural to wait them as well. Fate/Nada was a massive success and, for many people, their first (and simply) exposure to the franchise. Why wouldn't they cater to that audience?

Actually now.

"Emiya Shirou. Just I haven't agreed to this 'Master' affair yet."
I glare back at the priest, trying non to lose against his presence.

"Emiya Shirou."
"Huh?"
The weight on my back turns into a chill.

The priest slowly smiles as if he'southward met someone pleasant.
That grinning.
It makes me

The whole affair was provoking him into joining

Rejoice, male child. Your wish will finally come true.

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Angel'sArcanum

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 ane:xl pm Reply with quote
I think at that place are some adequate ideas laden in there, merely they definitely are put on the back-burner with all the fighting that transpires. Some of the ideas work but may be a scrap muddy and need more than emphasis.
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Seif

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:44 pm Reply with quote
Nocorras wrote:
Actually now.

"Emiya Shirou. But I haven't agreed to this 'Master' matter yet."
I glare back at the priest, trying not to lose against his presence.

"Emiya Shirou."
"Huh?"
The weight on my dorsum turns into a arctic.

The priest slowly smiles every bit if he's met someone pleasant.
That smile.
Information technology makes me

The whole matter was provoking him into joining

Rejoice, boy. Your wish will finally come true.

Kirei was portrayed as someone the reader shouldn't trust whose calendar was unknown. Not that he was completely evil.

Also you're completely ignoring the irony of the scene that the Ufotable pushes to the forefront.

[Edit]: unlike Nocorras you ought to know improve. Please refresh yourself with the quoting guidelines. Errinundra.

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